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Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Mon Feb 19, 18
8:59 PM
Hey guys- I am uploading via ftp and then processing through the gallery. Problem I'm having..the processing time averages about 8 photos/minute. With a typical wedding gallery being 800 images and up...we're talking an hour & a half to 2 hours processing time. I've lowered rest time to 5 seconds already. Does anyone have any tips/tricks on how to speed this up? I've never had this kind of low speed with other software I've used. What are everyone's original, large, small, image sizes at these days? TIA
 
 
 
 
 
Tim - PicturesPro.com
9766 posts
admin
Tue Feb 20, 18
9:13 AM
The speed of the process is determined by the size of the photos and the speed/quality of the server. Smaller photos process faster.
 
 
 
 
 
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Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
11:31 AM
Thanks for the reply Tim. I've seen that you've suggested uploading 1500px images...I'm uploading 2048 which is not much bigger but is optimal for social media, retina, etc. It takes longer for Sytist to process my images than for me to upload them to my server. And, the processing exceeds my server resources (GoDaddy)..even after I upgraded by doubling CPU & RAM. I'm hoping there's a better way to process these things.
 
 
 
 
 
Tim - PicturesPro.com
9766 posts
admin
Tue Feb 20, 18
11:52 AM
Are you watermarking the photos and if so, have you uploaded your own watermark PNG file? If you have if that watermark file is large it can make it take longer to process.
 
 
 
 
 
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Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
1:45 PM
Yes..I am watermarking via Sytist. Would it save some processing if I just watermarked via export from LR?
 
 
 
 
 
M Davis
246 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
3:12 PM
I upload 100 to 300 hi-res images from 4.8 MB to 15 MB on a regular basis.
It takes about 2 hours to upload on Sytist.
I have photo file settings in Sytist from 1800 px to about 300 px on the small size.

For port images, 1800 px on the long side.
When uploading 20-30 at a time they upload within a couple minutes, or less.
Edited Tue Feb 20, 18 3:13 PM by M Davis
 
 
 
 
 
M. Davis
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
7:19 PM
Thx. Are you ftp-ing or uploading through the gallery?
 
 
 
 
 
M Davis
246 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
7:24 PM
Since the update, I am uploading through the gallery.
I have FTP'd in the past - not since the update - with about the same results.
 
 
 
 
 
M. Davis
Bill Wells
241 posts
Tue Feb 20, 18
7:46 PM
First, when you export images from Lightroom set the quality to 84%. Other than smaller files size you can not tell a difference between 100% and 84%.

Second, use JPGMini to compress the files further. Again this will reduce file size (even smaller) without loss in quality, in both screen and print.

Third, Don't use a watermark "Do not Copy This Image", etc... Use a logo if you feel that is important, just make sure you have a small logo file.

Forth, Move from GoDaddy. I know you have heard that before. But GoDaddy is the number one web host errors for this or any program. They will always recommend you purchase larger, then larger. It's just their business model.
 
 
 
 
 
-Bill Bill & Jessica Photography https://wellsandcarnes.com
M Davis
246 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
12:53 AM
For a free JPEG optimize program Google recommends using (www) optimizilla (dot) com to reduce image file sizes. Not saying it is better than other programs. Just another option.
 
 
 
 
 
M. Davis
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
7:23 AM
Thx Bill. I did not know that about GoDaddy. As for running through Jpeg Mini...that should not have to be done. Should be fine to export FTP from LR. To be clear..it doesn’t take me long to export/upload..it’s the processing once in Sytist. I use a logo..not full image watermarking. I’ll try to export w/logo to maybe save a step in Sytist. My hosting plan is up for renewal in a few weeks. Any recommendations for good hosting?
 
 
 
 
 
Tim - PicturesPro.com
9766 posts
admin
Wed Feb 21, 18
10:59 AM
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Grissett, DIA - PicturesPro.com || My Email Address: info@picturespro.com
Bill Wells
241 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
11:16 AM
^^ This
 
 
 
 
 
-Bill Bill & Jessica Photography https://wellsandcarnes.com
Bill Wells
241 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
11:17 AM
Sam JPGmini DOES help. I promise. Also if you watermark prior to uploading there will not be a clean image if you let clients download.
 
 
 
 
 
-Bill Bill & Jessica Photography https://wellsandcarnes.com
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
3:43 PM
Thanks guys..just checked out Saratoga..looks great. As for the processing speed..I don’t do digital downloads...so maybe placing logo upon export might help. I get what JpegMini does and know it has a great reputation...just don’t want to add more steps to the equation.
 
 
 
 
 
Bill Wells
241 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
5:05 PM
Sam, I understand. I just upgraded to the pro version of JPGmini and it has a Lightroom export preset so it happens automatically.

Anyway, I did take time to look at your website, AMAZING WORK!! Your WordPress website is also very nice but has major issues. First, as soon as anyone starts to complete a form (contact) Chrome pops-up this site is not secure, in the address bar. This is because the site does not use SSL (https). Currently, Chrome is the only browser that does that. You might expect others browsers to follow their lead.

There were a number of issues with images lacking compression. I tested with 3 major testing tools, including Google. The very best rating I could get was a C. Most were D and F. The site took 4.97 seconds to load, so you may be missing clients, because they move on instead of waiting. Speed is also a SEO ranking factor.

If you moved to Saratoga Hosting, they provide the SSL at no charge. Plus they use https/2 which is another plus.

Regardless if you move or not, I would recommend you look into Amazon S3 (automatic in Sytist). It's cheap storage and very fast. Which means you can use a hosting plan with less storage, since your images will be stored and served from Amazon S3.
Edited Wed Feb 21, 18 5:07 PM by Bill Wells
 
 
 
 
 
-Bill Bill & Jessica Photography https://wellsandcarnes.com
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Wed Feb 21, 18
6:52 PM
I really appreciate you taking the time to go through the site..and for the advice Bill! I just launched that site a couple of weeks ago and thought I sized the images pretty well. Sized @ 2048px and ran through Save for Web in PS at like 30%. Files sizes were pretty small. If JPGMini can do a better job..I’ll pick it up. Didn’t know you could apply on LR export.
 
 
 
 
 
Greg Beasley
27 posts
Wed Mar 14, 18
9:51 AM
I just took Tim and Bill's advise and moved from GoDaddy to Saratoga Hosting and Amazon S3 last month. Couldn't be happier. GoDaddy was choking me and yes, every time I called I heard "While I have you on the phone, we have a new super upgrade available for $$$". It was getting ridiculous.

Did you know that GoDaddy slows your site down on purpose? Then they want to charge you to make your site faster.
Edited Wed Mar 14, 18 9:57 AM by Greg Beasley
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Wed Mar 14, 18
11:27 AM
I actually just switched to HostGator..got a nice intro deal but will see how everything goes.
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Weeks
205 posts
Thu Mar 15, 18
11:19 AM
Why do you need such large images?
1500 x 1000 = 1,500,000 pixels
2100 x 1400 = 2,940,000 pixels as in 40% larger is actually twice as large file size and will therefore take a lot longer to process (I know with JPEG that is not a fully correct answer)

Me I am happy at 800px long side but then as I do events i could have 10K images in a day to process

800 x 533 = 426,400 pixels

Mike
Sam Chinigo
9 posts
Thu Mar 15, 18
11:29 AM
Good point Michael. My main concern is that they look good on mobile devices since they will ultimately be expanded to fit the screens...which is why I size to 2000. Ipad resolution is 2536. And, with 4k screens becoming the norm..the viewing quality of smaller files becomes even worse.
 
 
 
 
 
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